Wednesday, October 4, 2023

What If... Jamie Lloyd was the killer after Halloween 4? (Part 2)


We caught back up with Jamie Lloyd, Rachel Carruthers, and the closest thing we have to Dr. Sam Loomis some nineteen years after Jamie stabbed her foster mother to death.

Needless to say, the reunion did not go well for seven people in that small town in Connecticut.

But, as we saw there, the body of Dr. Sartain had been left out in the morgue by a person or persons unknown. More specifically the mysterious Man in Black, whose motives are unknown and unknowable at the present. So, the question becomes... what happens next?

Let's find out, shall we?

Alexis Denisof portrays David

We pick up four years later, putting this film in 2011. Jamie Lloyd is still missing after escaping the morgue.

David Loomis, her former psychiatrist, was dismissed from Smith's Grove following the incident in Connecticut and has spent the better part of those four years trying to track her down and stop her. Rachel and her family have moved from their home and are currently MIA.

Every time that David has gotten close, however, Jamie manages to elude him by various means. However, he has been unable to find a rhyme or reason to the locations that she's going, nor to the people that she kills. While David revisits his father's theories that Michael and now Jamie is a being of pure evil made only to destroy, the elusiveness confuses him. It seems almost as if someone else is helping Jamie out.

After coming across a gas station that Jamie has slaughtered, he finds a single word painted onto a wall, the paint made up of the blood of Jamie's latest victims.

"MOMMY"

A car tears away from the gas station, previously having been believed abandoned by David. He goes off in pursuit of it, unaware that it does not contain Jamie - she slinks away in the other direction. David pursues the car all the way across the state to a run down motel. He finds the car without an occupant, but inquires inside and is told by the man at the desk that there is a call for him. Picking up the phone, David finds himself conversing with the mysterious Man in Black, who is cut to in between the bits of dialogue.

DAVID: Hello?

MAN IN BLACK: ...

DAVID: Who is this?

MAN IN BLACK: You have traveled quite a distance in search of Jamie Lloyd, Doctor Loomis. It is time for you to stop.

DAVID: You didn't answer my question. Who-

MAN IN BLACK: Jamie Lloyd's work is not done. You will not interfere any longer.

DAVID: Who are you? What do you want with Jamie?

MAN IN BLACK: The time is nigh, Doctor Loomis. The time is nigh.

The line goes dead. David looks at the calendar on the desk and sees that the date is October 29, 2011. A mere two days before Halloween. With the clue from the gas station, David goes to the one person who should know anything about it in relations to Jamie - that being Marion Chambers, now happily retired and living in the former home of the senior Doctor Loomis back in Langdon. Knowing he does not have much time, he journeys to Langdon.


In Langdon, Marion finds herself at the mercy of none other than Jamie Lloyd. It seems, however, that Loomis had prepared the house for such a situation and there are some tricks at her disposal, such as emergency panic room doors and even a few traps like some electrified nets and some tranquilizer darts. Jamie gets subdued and Marion thinks all is well... and then the power gets cut off to the house. Having looked away for a brief moment, Marion finds the fallen form of Jamie is gone. She's managed to get behind her and Jamie stabs her in the spine multiple times. When Marion falls, Jamie raids her files, taking one in particular that we don't get to see the label of.

By the time David arrives in Langdon, the police and paramedics have gotten to the house and Marion is being wheeled away, barely alive. David fast talks his way onto the ambulance and speaks to her. In a great deal of pain, the life ebbing from her body, Marion manages to get out a few words.

"Keri Tate" "Summer Glen" "Hillcrest".

However, despite the treatment of the paramedics, she dies on the way to the hospital. Armed with this new knowledge, David consults Google and discovers something that shocks him. Of course, having seen H20, we know what's coming.

In Summer Glen, California, "Keri Tate Brennan" is celebrating her retirement party after having spent the last two decades as the headmistress of the Hillcrest Academy, which has had several successful graduates such as her son John and his now-wife Molly, who have gone on to have successful careers and a family of their own. We, of course, know the truth that this is Laurie Strode and she is ironically living a much better life than either her H20 or Blumhouse timeline counterparts. She's well-adjusted, happy, and seemingly has no problems with drug and alcohol abuse.


Michael has been dead since 1988 and Jamie has been locked away in Smith's Grove (again) since 2007. For the last thirty-three years, Laurie Strode has been considered by most parties to be dead. This reality comes crashing down, however, when David Loomis appears on her doorstep and tells her that there is great trouble ahead.

The troubles are not Laurie's, but John's at first. John is an Army veteran, having served two tours in Iraq, and now works as a Regional Manager for a construction company. During a day on a new build site, as he's working at his office, John glances out the window to find Jamie staring at him from across the road in a very Halloween-esque manner. When he looks away and looks back, she's disappeared and he doesn't think much more of it.

That night, two drunken members of his construction crew pop back onto the site and are brutally killed by Jamie. Their bodies are found the next morning, their blood used to scrawl out a message of "BROTHER". The police begin investigating, John is immediately under suspicion due to the two men having been repeat troublemakers that he's disciplined in the past. David, Laurie, and Laurie's husband Will journey to the town where John, Molly, and their family live and explain the situation to Molly. John and Molly's daughter Judith (named after Molly's grandmother) is stalked by Jamie and we get a tense scene where it seems like Jamie might actually do in the eight year old before she is picked up from school by her mother, grandmother, and grandfather.

Because H20 never happened in this continuity, David has to play some exposition to get John and Molly up to speed on the franchise. While John knows about Michael and his mother's trauma from the original 1978 incident, the fact that he has a half-sister comes as a complete shock. Laurie genuinely feels great shame and guilt at having left Jamie behind in Haddonfield, thinking she would have had a better life without her in it after her father, Jimmy from Halloween II, had died in that car wreck. While she has since found ways to deal with her trauma and move beyond it, hearing of the events in 1988 and hearing that Jamie was incarcerated was something she had tried to ignore, thinking that that chapter of her life needed to stay in the past.

John, understandably, gives her Hell for it.

Being the two heading things up, David and Laurie attempt to make some kind of plan. Without knowing where Jamie is or where she will strike, however, they are sitting ducks. In the other room, Will gets a phone call from the same voice that spoke to David earlier. Unlike earlier, however, we don't get to hear the entire conversation.

MAN IN BLACK: You are going to do as we ask, Mr. Brennan. You have no choice.

WILL: You can't make me do this. I won't do this.

MAN IN BLACK: Yes, you will, because you know what happens if you do not...

WILL: What?

We do not hear the Man in Black, but whatever it is is so bad that Will is devastated and agrees.

That night, the family plus David is holed up in the Tate household. Will brings the adult folks - namely Laurie, John, and David, a few cups of coffee. Upstairs, Molly is tucking Judith in. Unbeknownst to either of them, Jamie is right outside the window in that creepy stalker way.


Downstairs, David is explaining the path he has taken over the last four years in pursuit of Jamie. He has found no rhyme or reason to her movements, as though she has simply been wandering... until the incident at the gas station, which is what led him to Laurie and the others. He speaks of the Man in Black, which Will is clearly perturbed about and hides poorly. David notices.

John begins to fall asleep after drinking his coffee. Laurie, too, begins to get drowsy and drift in and out. David, however, has not touched his cup and pulls his gun on a surprised Will. David grills him about the Man in Black, Will claiming to not know anything - only that they promised to leave him and Laurie in peace. David is prepared to shoot Will when they hear a scream from upstairs. David rushes upstairs to find Jamie has shattered the window and terrorized Molly and Judith. However, she is no longer there and a loud banging noise from downstairs gets their attention. David instructs Molly and Judith to barricade themselves in and goes to investigate, finding that the Man in Black has busted in... and it is no one that we know.

Nope, it's actually not Terrence Wynn. I've decided to dig back into an even older theory. The Man in Black reveals himself to be none other than a man named Samuel Myers - the twin brother of Michael, and thus an older brother of Laurie. When Michael killed Judith Myers in 1963, Samuel was placed into foster care and all records of his existence were sealed away - even the original Dr. Loomis knew nothing of his existence. While he is not Dr. Terrence Wynn, he was adopted by the man who was in fact... the leader of the Cult of Thorn, keepers of the dark power that festered inside of Michael and now exists within Jamie. When Wynn died in 2002, Samuel took over the cult and thus took over watching Jamie.

David is subdued by two members of the cult, who render him unconscious and drag him out. An unconscious John is likewise taken out by another two members of the Cult. As Laurie finally succumbs to the sleeping pills, Will confronts Samuel and demands that the Cult honor their part of the bargain.

SAMUEL: Oh, you misunderstand. I won't be leaving you in peace. I said that I would leave you alone.

WILL: I, wha-NO!

Samuel uses a silenced gun to fire three bullets into Will's chest, leaving him slumped over onto the table. When asked about Laurie, Samuel orders two of the cult members to bring her along: they aren't finished with her quite yet.


When David and John awaken, they are tied back to back in a darkened room with no idea of where they are. It's all very Big Trouble in Little China. Samuel enters, telling them that the time has come for Jamie to make the final sacrifice - namely Laurie and John, and John's children - in order for the Curse of Thorn to pass, protecting the tribe. After informing the pair that there is nothing they can do, he has two cult members take John away for the sacrifice. John attempts to escape, but gets beaten down and taken away. In the chaos, though, David is able to loosen the ropes holding him without drawing too much attention to that fact. When he's left by the cult, he begins to work his way out of them completely.

The Cult gathers and we learn where they are - Smith's Grove Sanitarium, once again. Samuel tells Laurie that Jamie will arrive soon, and he will make certain that she is the last of her line to die. For yes, it is indeed Halloween night 2011, and the constellation of Thorn is high in the sky over the Sanitarium. Before long, Jamie will arrive. He also explains that nature of the rune to Laurie and what it is for, and that Jamie inheriting it from Michael when he died in 1988 was something that was never intended to happen and thus is the reason why the Cult has had some difficulty keeping control over her in the past few years. Now, however, she's on the way back to Smith's Grove and the end is nigh.

Jamie arrives and all seems lost as the Cult directs her to kill off Laurie, John, and Judith. However, to the surprise of all, Jamie pulls out a kitchen knife and rams it through Samuel's throat. The leader of the Cult falls over, gargling his own blood as Jamie turns on the other members of the Cult and starts to kill them off one by one. David has managed to escape and reveals that he took a rune from Samuel's office, one that essentially switched who was an acceptable target for Jamie - namely, the Cult and Samuel.

David tries to get everyone out as Jamie finishes off the Cult. Unfortunately, Judith pulling on his arm causes him to drop the rune and it shatters, breaking the control over Jamie. Everybody runs up until they get to the exit. Laurie gets everyone outside and then locks the door behind them, turning to face Jamie. Laurie tells Jamie how sorry she is for abandoning her and it seems for a moment that she's going to relent and things may take a turn for the better...

Laurie dies as Jamie rams the knife that killed Samuel Myers through her chest, her mother's last action before slumping to the ground dead being to shakily press a hand to the mask-covered cheek of her daughter. With the Cult dead and Laurie dead, Jamie has two targets left - getting outside just in time to see John, Molly, Judith, and David drive off in a Smith's Grove van. Jamie flips the blood-covered knife in her hands and begins the slow serial killer walk toward her targets.

Alas, we aren't quite done here. With this settled, we get an end scene (or a post-credits scene if you prefer) that returns us to Haddonfield, Illinois. A police car rolls up to a graveyard. The young cop inside is responding to a call about screams coming from the cemetery. Thinking that it's just some kids pulling an out of season Halloween prank, he decides not to wait for back up and heads in himself. The cop finds a gravestone smeared with blood, and comes across the first body - that of the gravedigger. He reports this into his dispatcher, and then discovers another body... and another, and another... and yet another... all leading to four particular graves.

Donald Myers, the father.

Audrey Myers, the mother.

Judith Myers, the sister (with the gravestone restored from the 1978 incident).

and... Michael Myers - born October 19, 1957 and died October 31, 1988.

The first three graves are undisturbed. The fourth, however... is not.

The dirt has been upturned... from the inside. The young cop is about to radio this in when he hears deep breathing at his back and turns... just in time to get a knife in his gut, his last view being that of the blackest eyes... the devil's eyes... as he falls back into the open grave. A pair of worn, leathern hands picks up the gravedigger's shovel and begins to fill the grave back in...


...aaaaaand that's where we're going to leave off. Has Michael, after twenty-three years, risen from the grave once again? What does that mean for Jamie and the others? Will the curse of the Myers family finally, perhaps, be broken?

A question for another day. Next time, we'll be hearing the fifth part of the story of what happened... in...

What If... Sam Winchester killed John Winchester?

Be there!

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